Elizabeth Delilah (?Mary Elizabeth?) "Lizzie" Seybold[1]
1883 - 1965 (81 years)-
Name Elizabeth Delilah (?Mary Elizabeth?) "Lizzie" Seybold Born Oct 13, 1883 Corsicana, Navarro county, Texas, USA 
Gender Female Census Apr 15, 1940 Tuskahoma, Pushmataha county, Oklahoma, USA [2] Died Sep 10, 1965 Newman, Stanislaus county, California, USA Buried Hills Ferry Cemetery District, Newman, Stanislaus county, California, USA - Grave site in Citizen section G4-L3-B56.
Notes - Wrote to grandson Tommy, around 1952, while still living in Albion, that her name was "Marry Lizzie Beth Seybold". Shorty and Hazel said her name was "Elizabeth Delilah". Her marriage license lists her name as Lizzie Seybolt. On her son, Thomas', delayed birth certificate, her name is listed as "Elizabeth Dinah Seybold" while on his social security application he lists her name as "Mary Elizabeth Seybold". The only census she appeared on as a child by name was the 1900 Chickasaw Nation census, where she is listed as "Lizzie". This is the same name she used in subsequent censuses with her own family.
"Shorty", her daughter, said she was born in "Casa Grande, Texas" (but that's in the Big Bend country, so it's more likely she misunderstood the pronunciation of "Corsicana"). Her dad (J.R. Seybold) owned a store in Sciota, Illinois and her older siblings were all born in Illinois. He is listed on the ILL census in 1880, but he writes a letter from Chatfield, Navarro County in March of 1883 and then from Rice, Navarro County, Texas, near Corsicana, in 1890. He purchased land in Navarro County in April 1883 and grandma wasn't born until October of that year, so it's pretty obvious she was born in Navarro county Texas -- that is to say Corsicana, if Shorty is correct.
On the 1910 Konawa census, she lists her birthplace as Texas and the birthplaces of both her parents as Illinois.
She told Dardenelle and Mary Boynton that she and her siblings had "numbers" from the Bureau of Indian Affairs. Doris (Seabold) Kalita, Zeb's daughter, said that they got a settlement from the BIA because she was deceased and her husband was a Cherokee, so they distributed the money among her nearest kin. She says her father, Zeb, got about $35.
Aunt Hazel (9-11-97) says she is sure that her mother and her people came from Illinois. She said they were "Northern" people -- not easily accepted in I.T. That they had Negro servants and that her mother was kidded because she was nursed by a Negro slave when her mother had been ill. (The owning of a slave when she was born, in 1883, is unlikely -- especially considering that many of J.R.'s people -- and possibly J.R. himself -- served in the Illinois Infantry which was in the Union. Though I suppose it is possible some of their slaves stayed with them -- or perhaps they just had servants.)
They moved to Ardmore, in 1890, where her father, J.R., owned a store.
Her father died when she was about seven (ca 1890), her mother died a few years later, and she was passed from family to family. Aunt Hazel (9-11-97) said that she babysat when her mother was ill, when she was ten.
"Her two oldest sisters were school teachers ... momma and Aunt Lena were last, sort of orphaned, and didn't get an education." Aunt Hazel (9-11-97)
She was close to her brother Zeb. Never knew Herman or Theodore (how can this be, she was at least 7 years old when Theodore died and 15 when Herman stole the money?).
Person ID I1156 mykindred Last Modified Jun 19, 2012
Father John Robert Seybold, b. circa 1832, McDonough county, Illinois, USA , d. 1891, Ardmore, Carter county, Chickasaw Nation, I.T. (Oklahoma), USA (Age ~ 59 years) Mother Amanda Jane Welch, b. May 1844, Kentucky, USA , d. Bef Dec 1902, Center, Pontotoc county, Indian Territory, USA (Age ~ 58 years) Married Aug 26, 1865 McDonough county, Illinois, USA [3] Notes - Doris Seybold, (Zeb's daughter) said that her father never talked of his family. Hazel Cloud (Lizzie's daughter) wrote in November 1997 that "mama never discussed her family with us."
A Warranty Deed of October 19, 1870 signed by Jasper N. Seybold and his wife, Henry Etta Seybold, in Sciota township, McDonough county, Illinois deeding land to his brother, John R. Seybold, for the amount of $159.18.
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1870 McDonough County, Illinois census data (from Linda Worstell), Sciota township, p. 25, shows:
J.R. SEYBOLD, age 38, grocer, born IL
Amanda J. SEYBOLD, age 24, born KY
Idonialila (sic) SEYBOLD, age 3, born IL
Vitua (sic) SEYBOLD, age 5-1/2, born IL
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1880 McDonough County, Illinois census data, Sciota township, p. 5, shows:
name, marital status, gender, age, birthplace, occupation, father's birthplace, mother's birthplace
John SEYBOLD, M, M, 49, IL, Grocer, KY, KY
Amanda SEYBOLD, M, F, 35, KY, House Keeping, KY, KY
Idumea SEYBOLD, S, F, 13, IL, At School, IL, IL
Vetura SEYBOLD, S, F, 10, IL, At School, IL, IL
Herman SEYBOLD, S, M, 7, IL, At School, IL, IL
Theadore SEYBOLD, S, M, 5, IL, At Home, IL, IL
John SEYBOLD, S, M, 1, IL, At Home, IL, IL
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From these, the birth order of J.R. and Amanda's children is confirmed, Amanda's middle initial is shown to be "J", and their birth dates can be approximated.
List of taxable lots for 1880 and 1881 shows that John R. Seybold paid taxes on lots 1, 2, and 3 at the North end of Buel Street on the West side and, in 1882, he paid taxes on one lot and part of another.
"Macomb Journal", Thursday, June 17, 1882: "Thomas Head has bought the store building of J.R. Seybold." And, in the December issue, the notice "Mr. Thomas Head has purchased the Seybold property, and will move to town in the Spring."
"Sciota news items: John R. Seybold has gone on a prospecting tour through the Southwest. John has been a long time getting started, but now he has gone -- he means business."
"Sciota items: J.R. Seybold and C. Moschel shipped their goods to Texas, last week. Their families start in a few days."
After living in Texas for 6 years, J.R. sold his business to his friend, Christian Moschel, and moved his family again, in the fall of 1889, to Ardmore, Indian Territory and opened a general store there. It is suspected that J.R. died soon after arriving in I.T. In Idema's petition for citizenship in the Cherokee Nation in August of 1896, she notes that he is deceased but no date is given. He (or Amanda after his death) purportedly owned the JR Cattle Ranch close to Antlers and Kiamichi, Oklahoma. Idema said, in her petition to the 1896 Dawes Commission, that he was a Cherokee Indian, but many of her supporting statements appear to be either mistaken or blatantly false.
On April 7, 1926, his son, Zeb Seybold, wrote the following to a Mr. Emmett Seybold in Macomb Illinois on a piece of sheet music he'd published:
"My father ran a store at Sciota, Ill. for 15 years and his name was John Robert Seybold. He had a brother named George. My mother was born in Ky. Her name was Amanda Welch. She had one relation in Ill. named Sylvester Welch. Do you know of any of these folks and write me their address & names ..... P.S. I run a Barbershop, music is just a sideline only."
In a letter dated March 8, 1885 from Chatfield Texas, J.R. Seybold writes:
"Margret Foot
"Dear Cousin
"Yours received, & noted. Was glad to hear from you. We are all well & hope this will find you enjoying the same blessing. I expect from accounts we have had here, that it has been very cold north. The winter has been colder than usual here, but the winters here would not be called cold north. It seldom freezes hard enough to stop the plow. I have two renters on my place; they have planted their corn. I expect to commence planting in the morning. This will give you an idea of the difference between this climate, & where you are. I am farming but do not expect to farm longer than this season, if circumstances favors going into the mercantile business. The crop was not good here last season, money matters are close here. Now is a good time to buy land here. Land is steadly (sic) increasing in value here, & is a good investment. They generaly (sic) have prety (sic) good schools here, but of course not so well fited (sic) up, as in older states. The people here are generaly (sic) kind, & clever. We have as a (????) Illinoians, Indianians, Kentuckians, Alabamians, Tenneseeans (sic), & some from other States, but few of Texians. It is best for persons from the North to come here about the 1st of Octo, the change is too great in climate to come in the Spring. Now since I left Ills, I have not heard any thing about the Canada money, left there by Silus Seybold. It is very strange to me that nothing of a definite nature can be learned of it. There is something wrong somwhere (sic). Write to John Coffman & see if they have heard out anything
"Now as to this country, it is not as fertile a Soil as Ills, compared with the part where we lived, but compared with a majority of the States, it is a fine soil and excels. The climate far surpa??? Ills. I would not live in as cold a climate as Ills. I am not far from a 150 miles South of the North Texas line, & Sometimes I wish I was further South. There is a good place adjoining me, that's for Sale it belongs to heirs. Three are not of age yet. They intend getting a ????? from court to sell it. It (sic) think it will come in this fall. If I had the money I would buy it. Tell aunt Hatie (??). She is old to change climate, but it might be beneficial to her, but do not come before about the 1st of Oct. The familys best respects to you all, my best respects you all, hoping to hear from you soon. Bro, George is talking of selling out, if he sells I look for him here this fall, May the Lord watch over us all for good is my prayer.
Farewell, write soon,
J.R. Seybold."
In January, 1889, J.R. sold some land to Christian Moschel, recorded in the Navarro county courthouse.
Another letter is written to Margaret Foote by J.R. from Rice, Texas in March, 1890. The envelope is postmarked "RICE, TEX. (date illegible)" on one side and "DECORRA, ILL Mar 6, 1890" on the other. It is addressed to:
"Margret A. Foote
"Tecoria, Henderson, Co,
"Ills.
The stationery is printed:
"Rice, Texas, ___________
"To | C. MOSCHEL, | Dr"
"Dry Goods, Groceries, Hardware, Harness and General Merchandise"
The name "Moschel" and the word "harness" have been marked through to make the heading read:
"J.R. Seybold, Dealer in Dry Goods, Groceries, Hardware, and General Merchandise."
He had written, in smaller writing, in the upper left hand corner of the stationery:
"It has been a very warm winter here and lots of l__?__ (illness ??), and a good many deaths. Just now it is cold, the coldest weather we have had this winter. It turned cold on Thursday night."
"Rice, Texas, Mar. 2nd, 1890
"Mrs. Margrett Foote
"Dear Cousin,
"Yours of Feb, 25th, 1890, & contents noted, was glad to hear from you, & to hear that you was (sic) all well, & to get information of the relatives, & to hear that Aunt Hatie, your mother was still living, & well, for one of her age, give her my love, & respects, & hope that she may live many years yet, & a __??__ providence yet permit us to again, & if not permitted to meet again in this world, grant that we meet again in the heavenly paradise where parting, & Sorrow will be no more. Since in Texas (?), I have heard nothing of Aunt Alley, or of any of her folks, I wrote a letter since here (sic) to John Coffman, bur received no answer -- I don't know whether he got it, or not, neither have I heard anything of Uncle Dodson & his folks, don't know whether he is still living or not. Would be glad to know of both.
"Now Margritt, you speak of looking after that money in Canada, deposited there by grandfather Jesse Seybolds, brother Silas Seybold for Jesse Seybold our grandfather or his heirs, as supposed. Now Margritt, to tell you the truth I know but very little about it, I know what has been said, & I am satisfied, that Silas Seybold made a deposit there, but whether it is just for Jesse Seybold & his heirs or not, I don't know, Now Fredrick Seybold informed me, that a good many ago, there was a Seybold, --------------------------- into --- log------------, & swam the river St. larence (sic) into Canada, to save his life, deposited in Montreal $140,000.00 for a brother, at a bank rate of 3 per cent now we know that Silas Seybold was the man -------------------------------------------------------- swam the river St. laurence (sic) into Canada to save his life, & also he never returned, but staid (sic) there, & died intestate, that is he had no heirs, & it is reasonable to infer that if he made a deposit, it was for Jesse Seybold & heirs, for those two brothers were disinherited by Jasper Seybold, their father. Now in the year 1830, I think it was, that uncle Dodson, & ????? uncle Robert, learned from I think Daniel(?) Seybold in Indiana, that Silas Seybold was still living, & was very rich. In the winter of 1870, & 1871, if I remember correctly, I was at Wheaton 25 miles N.W. from Chicago, I learned there from the (Wheaton ???) Seybold that about 6 years before that he got a lawyer in Chicago, to investigate this matter, & found a deposit of money, in the Bank Montreal (sic), Montreal Canada, for W. (or could be an "a") Seybold, that it was not for any of his family, beyond this he would not tell me who it was put in by, who it was put in for, when it was put in, or how much was put in, notwithstanding I had a letter from him stating that he new (sic) who put it in, who it was put it in for, when it was put in, & how much was put in, but his excuse that he had forgotten, & the letter was lost, that would show how it was. Guess it seemed with all the parties who I confered (sic) with, who seemed to know anything, that there was a disposition to cover up & keep back what they new. In my investigations, I was told by James Seybold that this money was put in the Bank about four years before his death, Jim, might give you some valuable information. Now Margitt, this money I am satisfied will be hard to get all money deposited in a government Bank in Canada or England, in 100 years if not claimed reverts to the English government, hence it is to their interest to cover all such deposits Hence in my view, there is but one way to get at it, that is to go to Canada, have the records of the Bank searched by an officer, or employ a good detective to work it up, for a conditional amount of the money if successful, let it not be known only to him, what you are after. An American detective would probably be the best, I think there is a record also, of all deaths ??? there. If you go there, & have the records searched, I do not think it necessary to go back beyond the year 1825, for he was alive in 1830, & deposit the money some four years before his death. I sent uncle Toms money back to him, I am now packed up to move to Ardmore, I.T. If you write to me, that will be my place of address, ........................... (last four lines mostly unreadable -- and page dog-eared over some text) .......lect, hence have .............. the information I .... & will allow you out of my part (hard to read) if, you are successful, my ..... part of, all expenses. If you do undertake that, I hope .....ill be successful, but you must be very careful, & cautious for it is ....to take shrewed work to get it."
"....ell, write soon, Yours Truly, J.R. Seybold
Note the picture of his store in Ardmore has the date "May A.D. 1890" written on the top of the facade, so he must have moved shortly after writing this letter.
11-4-1997 Aunt Hazel said that after J.R. died Amanda bought the ranch and then became ill with TB, sold the ranch for money for medical expenses and, while asleep on her pillow, Herman stole the money from under her pillow. Because of her sickness and death and the loss of their money, the younger children were orphaned and passed from family to family and got no education. Bill Cloud is said to have taken orphans in to live with him and to work in his house. Supposedly, he took in Lizzie, as she was working for him when she met Jake Cloud. Did he also take in Zeb and Lena?
1890 Census Chickasaw Nation I.T. Book 2 Pickens Co.
Seybold, J.R. and wife #29180
J.R. is 58 3 male children 3 female children Ardmore PO 8 Total in Family
The female children were Idumea, 23; Vitura, 18; Lena, 10; and Lizzie, 7 -- and perhaps Elma. Who were the three female children in the household? Obviously, Lena and Lizzie, the youngest, were there. So who was the third? Idumea's 1896 Cherokee citizenship application implies that she did not marry until after that date. It's possible Vitura was already married (but she's listed as single and living with her mother in 1900). If Elmer/Elma was a female child, this further complicates the issue (there was no one by this name on the 1880 census, so he/she would have to be less than 10 years old).
Their male children were: Herman 17, Theodore 15, Zeb 11 and Theodore may have already died by this date. This accounts for the three males, but where are Arthur and Elmer/Elma? Previous censuses imply that they were either dead or born after Zeb and before Lizzie, the youngest. If Theodore was gone by then, Arthur could be the third male.
J.R. was listed as age 38 in ILL 1870 census, 49 in the ILL 1880 census, and 58 in the 1890 Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory, Pickens County census making him born about 1831 or 1832.
The Oklahoma land rushes were taking place in the 1890 to 1895 time frame. Perhaps J.R. participated in one of these?
We know J.R. was dead by 1896 from Idema's Cherokee citizenship application and certainly by 1900 from the census in that year sent by Jenny Garner jwgarner-at-texas.net> (below).
1900 Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory Township 4 North Range 6 East ED 120 Sheet 27 Line 31 (dated June 23, 1900).
Seybold, A.J. (female) May 1844 56 Widow 7 children 5 living KY UNK UNK Farmer
Vitery (dau) Mar 1872 28 Single IL
Zeb (son) Mar 1879 21 Single IL
Lena (dau) Oct 1882 17 Single IL
Lizzy (dau) ? 1885 15 Single TX
T 4 N R 6 E would be the area around Ada (in present Pontotoc Co.). Using an old map dated 1899 showing Chickasaw Nation, the square would include Ada (in center bottom); Hird (or Hurd -- can't read word on map) almost in the center; and Oakman inside but almost at the border of square on the upper right. The area includes Ada, but most of it is north of Ada. Ada was a booming town during that time.
Note that Amanda's (or whoever talked to the census taker) statement of seven children differs from Lillian's and Hazel's assertion that their mother (Lizzy) said her mother (Amanda) had nine children. Also, this could well imply that there was no Elmer or Arthur. If five children were living, and four are listed above, what about Idema and Herman? We know Idema lived until at least 1923, so this must mean Herman was dead by this time? Both aunts Lillian and Hazel and cousin Dardenelle remember grandmother Lizzy saying that Herman stole the money from their mother while she was dying so he must have died soon after -- before his mother died. This could also mean that Amanda died soon after the 1900 census. The fact that Lizzy's birth month is not listed and the year is wrong, and Amanda's parents' birthplaces are listed as "UNK" may be a clue that the information was given by someone other than Amanda who didn't have all the facts straight. Perhaps Amanda was ill at that time with the tuberculosis that killed her and someone else gave the information to the census taker?
(The Chickasaw Nation included all or part of the following twelve present day counties: Bryan, Carter, Garvin, Grady, Jefferson, Johnston, Love, McClain, Marshall, Murray, Pontotoc and Stephens.)
According to volume III of CEMETERY INSCRIPTIONS OF CARTER COUNTY, OKLAHOMA, which includes Rose Hill Cemetery in Ardmore, it says "In checking a number of different sources it appears there were two other older, or at least as old, cemeteries in Ardmore. The remains from at least one of these cemeteries were removed to Rose Hill prior to statehood (1907). One source says around 1895 and another says about the turn of the century. A check of the 1895 newspapers did not reveal any stories concerning a cemetery move. Rose Hill was opened for burial in 1895 and once called South Cemetery."
The book "INDIAN TERRITORY AND CARTER COUNTY PIONEERS" says "In April 1895, the largest fire in the history of Ardmore started in Harper's Livery Stable on North Caddo. Due to high winds, the fire spread rapidly to the back of the stores on Main Street ... several merchants were uninsured." Perhaps J.R.'s store was destroyed then? Perhaps he died in the fire?
In a letter dated 2-21-1997, Aunt Hazel (Cloud) Brown wrote of their family: "1. Herman, no children; 2. Iduma, no children; 3. Theodore, died young; 4. Arthur, no children; 5. Zebulon, four children: John, Lyn, Irma; 6. Lena, no children; 7. Vitura, one daughter, Theo Harris, married to Martha Harris children Opal, Winfred, Arthur, Allen, they had oil wells, last account of them they were in Sulphur, Oklahoma; 8. Elizabeth - mother and had ten children."
On 2-23-1998, aunt Hazel said "momma said her mother had 9 kids". Though I can find no evidence of either Elmer/Elma or Arthur, Hazel's recollection lends credibility to their having been children of Amanda and J.R.
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Family ID F1136 Group Sheet | Family Chart
Family Jake Washington Cloud, b. Jul 04, 1880, Milam county, Texas, USA , d. Nov 24, 1968, Gustine, Merced county, California, USA (Age 88 years) Married Sep 14, 1902 Center, Pontotoc county, Indian Territory, USA [5, 6, 7]
The town of Picket is where Center used to be. Marriage license, recorded in Ada, OK, F-529-1360 lists name as Lizzie Seybolt (18) and Jake Claud (22). The actual license has the "No. 1959" written on it. Lists both their addresses as Center, I.T. US Court -- Southern District Records file number F-205-240.
Notes - Dardenelle and Aunt Hazel (August and September, 1997) said that grandpa Bill was a cotton gin man, that Jake worked in the gin for him and that grandpa Bill had hired servants. Jake met Lizzie while she was working in his house.
Aunt Hazel said (11-4-1997) that "dad said Center was no place to raise kids and moved six miles to River Bend just across the river from Ada". They lived there for a few years, dad working with machinery in a cotton gin, and then moved on to Konawa, about 1909, because dad wanted a country life with his family.
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1900 census, I.T., Chickasaw Nation, ed 130, 3-A, June 2, HH 45
CLOUD, William, head, W, M, Aug 1850, 49, m 19 yrs, AL, unk, unk, ginner & miller
CLOUD, Margaret, wife, W, F, Jan 1863, 37, m 19 yrs, 6/3 children, TX, AL, AL
CLOUD, Jasper, son, Sept 1874, 25, TX, AL, TX, salesman
CLOUD, Thomas, son, Oct 1876, 23, TX, AL, TX, day laborer
CLOUD, Jacob, son, July 1879, 20, TX, AL, TS, day laborer
CLOUD, Mary, dau, July 1880, 19, TX, AL, TX
CLOUD, John, son, Feb 1895, 15, IT, AL, TX
CLOUD, Alice, dau, Feb 1887, 13, IT, AL, TX
JOHNSON, Myrtle, servant, W, F, Feb 1881, 19, MO, unk, unk, servant
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1907 Oklahoma statehood census, Konawa township, Seminole county
CLOUD, Jake, head, white male, 28
CLOUD, Lizzie, wife, W, F, 23
CLOUD, Lillian, dau, W, F, 4
CLOUD, Hazel, dau, W, F, 2
CLOUD, Elmor, son, W, M, 10/12
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On the 1910 Seminole county, Konawa Township census, Jake (28) and Lizzie (28) Cloud are living with their children Lillian (7), Hazel (5), Elmo (4), and William L. (1-6/12). They are living next door to Lizzie's sister, Cora Vitura and Sam Harrison and one homestead away from another sister, Lena G. and Alexander Stubbs.
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1910 census, OK, Seminole, Konawa, ed 184, 14-A, (T624-1274, 104)
May 3, 1910, HH 252/253
CLOUD, Jake, head, M, W, 28, m1 7 yrs, TX, TX, TX
CLOUD, Lizzie, wife, F, W, 28, m1 7 yrs, 4/4 children, TX, IL, IL
CLOUD, Lillian, dau, 7, OK
CLOUD, Hazel, dau, 5, OK
CLOUD, Elmo, son, 4, OK
CLOUD, William L, son, 4-6/12, OK
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1920 census, OK, Seminole, Konawa, ed 248, 1-B, (T625-1471, 133)
Jan 3, 1920, HH 14/14
CLAWD, J.W., head, M, W, 40, TX, TX, TX
CLAWD, Elizabeath, wife, F, W, 38, TX, IL, IL
CLAWD, Lillian R, dau, 16, OK
CLAWD, Hazel G, dau, 14, OK
CLAWD, Elmo, son, 12, OK
CLAWD, Bill, son, 11, OK
CLAWD, Richard, son, 9, OK
CLAWD, Charley, son, 7, OK
CLAWD, Tom, son, 4, OK
CLAWD, Fred, son, 1, OK
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1930 census, OK, Seminole, Konawa, ed 67-12, 12-B
April 19, 1930
CLOUD, Jacob W, head, M, W, 50, m at 20, TX, TX, TX
CLOUD, Lizzie, wife, F, W, 47, m at 18, TX, IL, IL
CLOUD, Lillian R, dau, 26, OK
CLOUD, Hazel L, dau, 25, OK
CLOUD, Satelmo, son, 22, OK
CLOUD, Richard, son, 19, OK
CLOUD, William L, son, 20, OK
CLOUD, Charley T, son, 17, OK
CLOUD, Tommie M, son, 13, OK
CLOUD, Fredrich C, son, 12, OK
CLOUD, J.W., son, 4-7/12, OK
CLOUD, Claud W, son, 3-8/12, OK (grandson, son of Lillian above)
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1940 census, OK, Pushmataha, Tuskahoma, ed 64-18, 12-B & 13-A, April 13-15
-- HH 238
NAPIER, Price H, head, M, W, 77, widowed, TX
DABBS, Pearl, dau, 56, widowed, TX
-- HH 239
NAPIER, Luke, head, M, W, 36, OK
NAPIER, Winifred, wife, F, W, 18, OK
-- HH 240
BOYNTON, S.C., head, M, W, 33, KS, previously lived in Long Beach, CA, steam ship waiter
BOYNTON, Hazel, wife, F, W, 35, OK
BOYNTON, Mary E, dau, 9, CA
BOYNTON, James B, son, 4, CA
BOYNTON, Paul W, son, 1, OK
-- HH 241
CLOUD, Jake W, head, M, W, 59, married, no schooling, TX
CLOUD, Lizzie, wife, F, W, 57, married, finished 2nd grade, TX
CLOUD, Dick, son, 29, single, finished 8th grade, OK
CLOUD, Charlie T, son, 27, single, finished 7th grade, OK
CLOUD, Katherine D, dau, 18, single, finished 8th grade, OK
CLOUD, J.W., son, 15, single, finished 7th grade, OK
CLOUD, Dardenelle, grandson, 14, single, finished 7th grade, OK
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There was a two year drought in Konawa and they lost everything but one cow. Jake got an opportunity to share crop in Albion so they moved there. Hazel and Gail Boynton bought them a place there (Gail went to a "tax title" land auction and bid on the 40 acres for 25 cents an acre and got it for $7.50.) Jake built a log house that they lived in.
Hazel wrote that the entries in the family Bible were made by Shorty, as momma couldn't write very well. "Shorty wrote the record and were mostly of our family, for she's like me, knew little of family traditions." Just before she died, Shorty gave the family Bible to George Napier's wife, Glenda.
Dardenelle said he'd heard that grandma Cloud's grandfather Seybold served in the civil war (i.e. David Seybold).
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Children 1. Lillian Ruth "Shorty" Cloud, b. Aug 02, 1903, Center, Pontotoc county, Indian Territory, USA , d. Dec 09, 1992, San Jose, California, USA (Age 89 years)2. Hazel Leora Cloud, b. Nov 23, 1904, Center, Pontotoc county, Indian Territory, USA , d. Jun 23, 2003, Modesto, Stanislaus county, California, USA (Age 98 years)3. St. Elmo Jake Cloud, b. Nov 10, 1906, Center, Pontotoc county, Indian Territory, USA , d. Apr 17, 1985, Purcell, McClain county, Oklahoma, USA (Age 78 years)4. William Lafayette Cloud, b. Jan 14, 1909, Oklahoma, USA , d. Jun 23, 1989, Newman, Stanislaus county, California, USA (Age 80 years)5. Richard Cloud, b. Aug 02, 1910, Konawa, Seminole county, Oklahoma, USA , d. Oct 29, 1988, Modesto, Stanislaus county, California, USA (Age 78 years)6. Charley Therion "Snookie" Cloud, b. Dec 05, 1912, Konawa Cemetery, Konawa, Seminole county, Oklahoma, USA , d. Feb 22, 1991, Logsdon, Oregon, USA (Age 78 years)7. Thomas Marin "Jerry" Cloud, b. Oct 31, 1916, Konawa, Seminole county, Oklahoma, USA , d. Jan 28, 1988, Austin, Travis county, Texas, USA (Age 71 years)8. Frederick Christopher Columbus Cloud, b. Jun 04, 1919, Konawa, Seminole county, Oklahoma, USA , d. Mar 25, 1996, Sudan, Kansas, USA (Age 76 years)9. Katherine Dorise "Sally" Cloud, b. May 25, 1921, Konawa, Seminole county, Oklahoma, USA , d. Sep 24, 1994, North Hills, Los Angeles county, California, USA (Age 73 years)10. James Wayne Cloud, b. Aug 25, 1925, Konawa, Seminole county, Oklahoma, USA , d. Feb 02, 2014, Boise, Ada county, Idaho, USA (Age 88 years)Family ID F448 Group Sheet | Family Chart
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Photos 
Cloud, Lizzie Seybold (1883-1965) Cloud, Lizzie Seybold (1883-1965)
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