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John Marion "J.M. \ Jim" Cloud[1]

Male 1854 - 1913  (58 years)


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  • Name John Marion "J.M. \ Jim" Cloud 
    Born Nov 18, 1854  Hempstead, Waller county, Texas, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Died Oct 29, 1913  Cement, Grady county, Oklahoma, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Last name is Cloud on Death Certificate.
    Buried Abt 31 Oct 1913  Whitebead Cemetery, Pauls Valley, Garvin county, Oklahoma, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Notes 
    • Came to Oklahoma on trail drive from Texas.  Met wife around Paul's valley.  For some reason, he went to an area near the Kiamichi mountains and changed his name to Black.
          Lura Black wrote (JAN 18 2001) "... John Cloud changed his name to John Black by at least 1882.  In 1882 he was living in a place referred to as White Bead Hill .... might be the area which is now just referred to as White Bead.  Mary Lou sent me copies of some Bills of Sale for cattle dated 1882 and 1887.  In both, he is referred to as John Black."  But, in 1910 census, he is in Oregon using the Cloud surname.
          The family of his first cousin once removed, William Lafayette "Bill" Cloud, were told that Bill Cloud had a cousin named Jim who killed a man and that Bill gave him three dollars and told him to leave.  Jim went to the Kiamichi mountains of I.T. and changed his name to Black.  Bill's great grandson, Tom Cloud, recorded this story several times from his aunts and uncles, grandchildren of Bill Cloud, but he had no idea who Jim was nor if  the story is true until he visited with "Jim's" descendant, Mary Lou Freeman.  It is interesting that the name "Cloud" can be written over the name "Black", obliterating it, and that is exactly what was done in the family Bibles and old family records of the descendants of J.M. "Jim" Cloud/Black.
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      1900 census, IT (OK), Chickasaw Nation, Pauls Valley, ed 135, 5-A, June 4
      BLACK, John, head, W, M, Nov 1854, 45, m 18 yrs, TX, AL, AL, stock raiser
      BLACK, Annie C, wife, W, F, Feby 1867, 33, m 18 yrs, 7 children, England, Eng, Eng
      BLACK, Mary E, dau, July 1884, 16, IT, TX, England
      BLACK, John E, son, May 1885, 15, IT, TX, England
      BLACK, Josie F, son, Jan 1887, 13, IT, TX, England
      BLACK, Texana, dau, Feby 1889, 11, IT, TX, England
      BLACK, F. Madge, dau, May 1894, 6, IT, TX, England
      BLACK, E. Ralph, son, Dec 1896, 3, IT, TX, England
      BLACK, George W, son, Dec 1899, 6/12, IT, TX, England
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      1910 census, OR, Multnomah, Portland (8th wrd), April 22
      p. 75, e.d. 202, 13-B, Seventy Four Street #127,
      lines 76-82, HH 307/310
      CLOUD, John ?, head, M, W, 55, wd, 28 yrs married, AL, GA, AL, laborer, odd jobs
      CLOUD, Anna, wife, F, W, 42, m, 28 yrs married, 7 children 7 living, Eng, Eng, Eng
      CLOUD, Mary, dau, 26, s, IT, AL, Eng, laborer, gun factory
      CLOUD, Texana, dau, 21, s, IT, AL, Eng, laborer, gun factory
      CLOUD, Madge, dau, 15, s, IT, AL, Eng
      CLOUD, E. Ralph, son, 12, s, IT, AL, Eng
      CLOUD, ?(can't read - must be Geo. W.)?, 10, IT, AL, Eng
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    Person ID I1643  mykindred
    Last Modified Mar 11, 2018 

    Father Henry George Washington "H.G.W." "Wash" Cloud,   b. Mar 14, 1810, Twiggs county, Georgia, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aug 05, 1897, Groesbeck, Limestone county, Texas, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 87 years) 
    Mother Mary T. Bateman,   b. Abt 1818, Georgia, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d.  
    Married Mar 17, 1839  Montgomery, Montgomery county, Alabama, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    •   Montgomery Co. Alabama - Marriages - 1817-1850:  "Cloud, Henry G.W. to Mary T. Bateman, 16 Mar. 1839; 17 Mar. by James H. Judkins, J.P.", Book E, page 13
        Montgy Gen society:  "Henry G. W. CLOUD & Mary T. BATEMAN  lic. 16 Mar 1839;  mar. 17 Mar 1839 by James H. JUDKINS"
    Notes 
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      1850 census, TX, Austin, (M432-908, 88), Oct 2, HH 14/14
      CLOUD, H.G.W., 40, M, farmer, GA, blind
      CLOUD, Mary, 32, F, GA
      CLOUD, Jerry, 19, M, laborer, AL
      CLOUD, Alexander, 17, M, laborer, AL
      CLOUD, George, 10, M, AL
      CLOUD, Noah, 7, M, AL
      CLOUD, James, 6, M, AL
      CLOUD, Jane, 14, F, AL
      CLOUD, Louisa, 2, F, AL
      (His second wife, Mary; Jerry, Alexander and Jane his children by his first marriage.)
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      1860 TX, Austin, Hempstead, June 14, p 1, HH 1/1
      (enumerator Jerry CLOUD)
      CLOUD, H.G.W. 50, M, farmer, GA, blind
      CLOUD, Mary T, wife, 42, F, GA
      CLOUD, Geo W., 20, M, AL
      CLOUD, Noah, 16, M, AL
      CLOUD, Jas W. J., 14, M, AL
      CLOUD, Louisa 12, F, TX
      CLOUD, Texania, 8, F, TX
      CLOUD, John, 4 M, TX
      CLOUD, Bettie, 2, F, TX
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      1870 Census, TX, Austin, Hempstead, Oct 19th
      -- HH 597
      CLOUD, Henry G, 59, M, W, farmer, GA, blind
      CLOUD, James W., 25, M, farmer, AL
      CLOUD, Texhannah, 18, F, TX
      CLOUD, John M., 15, M, TX
      CLOUD, Bettie, 13, F, TX
      -- HH 598
      CLOUD, Isaac, 35, M, Mulatto, farmer, AL
      CLOUD, Tillis, 40, F, Mulatto, LA
      CULER, Isabelie, 16, F, B, domestic servant, TX
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      1880 census, TX, Waller, pct 1, p 37, sd 4, ed 158, (T9-1331, 384)
      Jun 10, 1880, HH 399/439
      CLOUD, JWJ, W, M, 34, AL, GA, GA
      CLOUD, LF, W, F, 33, AL, NC, VA
      CLOUD, HL, 5, dau, TX, AL, AL
      CLOUD, WW, 2, son, TX, Al, AL
      CLOUD, HGW, W, M, 70, father, GA, GA, GA, blind
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      [3]
    Family ID F20  Group Sheet

    Family 1 Martha Ann "Annie" Kelton,   b. 1849,   d.  
    Married Dec 08, 1874  Waller county, Texas, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • record title: Texas Marriages, 1837-1973
      groom's name: John Cloud
      groom's birth date: 1854
      groom's age: 20
      bride's name: Annie Kelton
      bride's birth date: 1849
      bride's age: 24
      marriage date: 08 Dec 1874
    Children 
     1. Allie R. Cloud,   b. Aug 28, 1875, Texas, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Dec 02, 1951, Conroe, Montgomery county, Texas, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 76 years)
    Family ID F247  Group Sheet

    Family 2 Mary Eliza Snell,   d.  
    Married Mar 06, 1877  Waller county, Texas, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Lexie Cloud (Black),   d.
     2. Jack Cloud (Black),   d. 1893
    Family ID F285  Group Sheet

    Family 3 Annie Charlotte Speare,   b. Feb 18, 1867, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Sep 04, 1949, Paoli, Garvin county, Oklahoma, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 82 years) 
    Married Aug 10, 1882 
    Children 
     1. Mary Elizabeth "Mollie" Black (Cloud),   b. Jul 12, 1883, Whitebead, Garvin county, Indian Territory, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Jan 26, 1978, Ringwood, Major county, Oklahoma, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 94 years)
    +2. John Ellis "Bee" Black (Cloud),   b. May 23, 1885, Whitebead, Garvin county, Indian Territory, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Feb 07, 1927, Shawnee, Pottawatomie county, Oklahoma, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 41 years)
     3. Joe Farr Black (Cloud),   b. Jan 04, 1887, Whitebead, Garvin county, Indian Territory, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Jul 28, 1958  (Age 71 years)
     4. Betty Texana Black (Cloud),   b. Feb 06, 1889, Whitebead, Garvin county, Indian Territory, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. May 08, 1977  (Age 88 years)
     5. Jim Talmadge Black (Cloud),   b. Nov 1890, Whitebead, Garvin county, Indian Territory, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Feb 1891, Whitebead, Garvin county, Indian Territory, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 0 years)
     6. DeWitt Talmadge Cloud,   b. Mar 04, 1892, Whitebead, Garvin county, Indian Territory, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Jun 25, 1893, Whitebead, Garvin county, Indian Territory, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 1 years)
     7. Flora Madge Black (Cloud),   b. May 18, 1894, Whitebead, Garvin county, Indian Territory, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Dec 15, 1918, Whitebead, Garvin county, Oklahoma, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 24 years)
    +8. Emanuel Ralph Black (Cloud),   b. Dec 11, 1896, Whitebead, Garvin county, Indian Territory, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. May 22, 1972, Wanette, Oklahoma, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 75 years)
     9. George Winnefred Black (Cloud),   b. Dec 04, 1899, Whitebead, Garvin county, Indian Territory, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Mar 1987, Fairview, Major county, Oklahoma, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 87 years)
     10. Randolph Jack Black (Cloud),   b. Jul 08, 1902, Whitebead, Garvin county, Indian Territory, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Oct 10, 1906, Whitebead, Garvin county, Indian Territory, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 4 years)
    Family ID F88  Group Sheet

  • Sources 
    1. [S889] Gedcom - Freeman, Mary Lou Park.

    2. [S210] Montgomery County Alabama records.
      Montgomery Co. Alabama - Marriages - 1817-1850:
      "Cloud, Henry G.W. to Mary T. Bateman, 16 Mar. 1839; 17 Mar. by James H. Judkins, J.P.", Book E, page 13

    3. [S4251] 1850 US federal census.



  
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